Veit Bach ... Did He Come from Preßburg and for that Reason from Hungary? Or Did Veit Bach Come from Ungern, Ungernland or Ungerndorf ... Back?..

The Bachs initially emigrated to Moldau, not to be confused with the country of Moldova. Moldau is so close to the current border with Germany that it only takes a few minutes to walk to the neighboring country. However, Veit had not yet been born at the time of emigration. Not Veit 1 and not Veit 2..

Duchzow is the city that can be reached in just three hours on foot from Moldau. The Bachs moved there, to what is today the Czech Republic. Veit was born in a tiny village near Duchzow, which at that time probably had around 90 souls. Veit the Older..

Veit the Elder was born here in Janegg. In Jeníkov u Duchcova (... Janegg near Duchzow) and thus in an area in what is today the Czech Republic, which used to be called Ungernland or simply Ungern. And why Veit Bach the Elder? Was there also a Veit the Younger? Yes, there was. Because before 1619, when the forefather of the musical Bachs died in Wechmar, there was at the same time – and overlapping – a reference to a Veit in Hanfthal near Laa an der Thaya, in Austria. This means that Veit cannot have been in two places at the same time. So there were two Veits..

Did Veit Bach Come from Preßburg? Did Veit Bach Come from Hungary?..

Veit Bach did not come from Preßburg. We have always seen it that way! Veit came from Ungern. And not from Ungarn, German for Hungary, either. Incidentally, Preßburg at that time is today's Bratislava. 700 biographers – almost all of them – used the word “Ungern” in reference to the "Ursprung (... Origin) of the Musical Bach Family" (... that's right, not all of them ...). In the “Ursprung", according to the abbreviation of this contemporary document from 1735 (... in a copy of the original by a granddaughter of Bach), under ”No. 1" it says: Veit Bach had to flee from Ungern. Strictly speaking, no one is allowed – for whatever reason – to change this “Ungern” to “Ungarn”. You can comment on, evaluate, interpret, and much more with the term ‘Ungern’ ... but simply changing ‘Ungern’ to “Ungarn” without further explanation . . . this made research incredibly difficult for every genealogist working on Bach and Veit Bach in particular..

In doing so, “Mr. Korabinsky, the writer, takes the cake”: He finds someone named “Pach” (?!). In Preßburg. And Pach was a baker. That's enough for Johann Matthias. And he bends the early Bach story by claiming that this is precisely the Veit Bach (... in Preßburg, of course) who “had to escape” because of his religion and thus emigrated to Wechmar. The fact that this “Pach” had a completely different first name than Veit Bach doesn't bother author Korabinsky much either..

As mentioned, we have spent many, many years conducting intensive research on Veit Bach, Ungern, Ungernland, and Preßburg, now known as Bratislava. We have corresponded with people and traveled to Bohemia. We have optimized the important homepage pages about Veit Bach on Bach über Bach for search engines. So that people might find us again sometime in the distant future. And "provide us" with sensational facts about this Veit Bach..

And indeed, someone found us! Someone found something so important and significant for us about Veit Bach, Ungern, Ungernland, Ungerland, and Hungary! And he contacted us. He found a place called “Ungerndorf” — or “Ungern” for short! The village of 130 souls is actually called Ungerndorf. But in the very first email we received about this sensation in the summer of 2021, the sender pointed out that in old council minutes, “Ungerndorf,” as it was called at the time, was also simply referred to as “Ungern.” The researcher? Michael Lehner. He owns the local bookstore on the town square in Laa on the Thaya. In the far north of Austria. He is a genealogist and a night watchman for tourists: He guides visitors... and now he is also a Bach researcher. At least a Bach researcher h.c.! Because he finds my Veit Bach pages. He reads them patiently and responds to my request to contact us if “anything of significance about Veit Bach comes his way.” He sends us an ancient document. In it, a Veit Bach in Hanfthal, a stone's throw from Ungerndorf, is mentioned as “attracting the negative attention of the authorities.” We also receive the above information, namely that Ungerndorf used to be written as “Ungern” for short. In official, ancient documents..

This finally, finally, truly concludes a 300-year search by many highly competent professionals and amateurs into the “Bach Genealogy and thus into Veit Bach”!..

Of course, such town entrance signs did not exist in Veit's time. But hemp was already being cultivated back then. Today, there is a charming hemp museum in Hanftal..

The roast pork with bread dumplings at the Hanfwirt tastes infinitely good. Add one or two glasses of Almdudler and that crowned a successful day of photography for me. Veit and his family would certainly have dined there from time to time had the Hanfwirt already existed in their lifetime..

This is precisely the route taken by “Veit and family” when they moved from Hanftal to Ungerndorf, then known as Ungern. It was only an hour and a half's walk. How do we know that Veit & Co. once moved from Hanfthal to Ungerndorf? Because the next stop was Wechmar. As Johann Sebastian wrote and recounted: Veit had to flee Ungern. It is likely that Veit the Elder, the Veit who was born in Janegg, remained in Ungerndorf. While Veit the Younger took on the hardships of emigration. Where Veit the Elder fled to ... and where he died ... is not known. Nor when. Where Veit the Younger died and when, on the other hand, is known. And yes, it could also have been that the younger one remained in Ungerndorf and the older one migrated back..

Would you like to learn more about Gräfenroda, where it all began for the Bachs? Gräfenroda in Thuringia. There, the Bachs were likely simple farmers and certainly not yet “musically active.” In four minutes, you'll know everything there is to know. © Info..

Janegg was located very close to the border with present-day Germany at that time. Veit the Elder was born there. Would you like to find out more? You can do so in just five minutes with text, music, film, and photos. Enjoy! And yes, Janegg is still very close to the German border today. © Info..

Hanfthal and Ungerndorf, finally. There is so little to report about both locations that they are not only presented as a “combination” with just one video. The small town to which both Bach locations belong also receives a lot of attention. That is Laa on the Thaya in Austria. At eleven minutes, it is the longest of the 17 portraits of Bach cities and Bach locations..

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