Bach FAQ 137
Bach Seal, Bach Monogram, Bach Initials, Bach's Sign, Bach Logo, or Bach Crest ... What Now Is Right?..
Quickly and in advance, what does it mean? The Bach Seal, Bach's Sign, Bach's Symbol, the Bach Logo, the Bach Insignia, the Bach Monogram ... it always consists of the three letters J, S, and B for Johann Sebastian Bach. And above them are the same three letters mirrored. They are reversed. So you see six letters..
It is called the Bach Coat of Arms, the Bach Insignia, also the Bach Monogram, or Bach's sign, the Bach Seal and most modern of all, the Bach Logo. These are the terms that are used less here in Germany, but especially in the USA, Great Britain, Australia, Canada, Japan, and many other countries. For me, as the author of “Bach on Bach” (... German "Bach über Bach"), the Bach Seal is of particular significance. Whatever it is called, and much, much more often ... you can find out here now. Incidentally, the eighth different Bach Monogram is shown above, which I found – even after my editorial deadline for this page – only by chance and by googling the Bach images under the keyword “Bach Logo”. It was later photographed by our friend and genealogist Christian Hoske in Eisenach. Especially for me. What is different about this Bach Monogram above can be read in detail as the answer to FAQ 106. © Christian Hoske..
In my opinion, only the Bach Museum in Leipzig still uses the term “Bach's Sign,” which is a little unusual. It is available online as a PDF file. Specifically, it is an “activity box.” It is aimed at children and contains painting instructions. Exciting? Yes, exciting. Here is the link..
In English, there is no “Bach's Sign,” but there is the black-and-white graphic seal, in which seven cones, or spikes, are enthroned in the crown above the interlaced letters..
Why do I call it that, when it's usually not referred to as the Bach Monogram, Bach's Symbol, Bach Logo, or Bach Insignia? Because I want to accommodate you: You may have been searching for the term Bach Logo. And because the word is not used nearly as often as the more common one, you don't end up on my page, which either explains these Bach insignia very clearly or in detail ... and that's somewhere else entirely. Because around 60 percent of all searchers on the internet click on the first search result. And 15 percent on the second. And eight percent on the third. Less than one percent ( ! ) of all people ultimately click on positions 11 to 1,000,000,000. And that's why I want to be at the top of your search results when you type in Bach Monogram. Or Bach Coat of Arms. Or Bach Insignia. Or even ... Bach's Sign and Bach Seal. So much in my own interest. With a smile ... as anyone who visits and reads here often knows. Always..
So here and now, on this page, you will find a little information. Or you can click on another FAQ nearby. For example, to Sangerhausen, where Bach first left this, his Bach sign, for posterity. On a church wall. Find out more with one click..
Bach's sign. This is what the great Thomaskantor is said to have left behind? Feel free to read it for yourself. © KMD Martina Pohl..
My interest in Bach's Sign, that is the Bach Monogram, was awakened when there was something special to report about it. And that was quite some time ago. Because, of course, I had long noticed that some Bach Insignia have seven cones in the crown, while others have only five..
If you have been interested in Bach for over 15 years, and especially beyond his music ... then you are very familiar with the Bach seal above. Today, it is no longer the “official” one. You can read all about it in detail in the answer to FAQ 106. You can find it here again..
For over 250 years, there was agreement: seven prongs in the crown in the Bach monogram ... ..
Seven cones or prongs in the crown: Bach's symbol adorned biographies, stamps, record sleeves, much more, and of course the signpost at the Bach Family Ancestral Home (... Bach Stammhaus) in Wechmar. Wechmar is the ancestral place of the Bach family of musicians ... where it all began with music for the Bachs..
This is what it looks like: the Bach monogram, or more modernly, the Bach logo. In sealing wax on the surviving receipts and business letters of the musical wonder. People interpreted it as a crown with seven prongs! Well, with the reading and dissemination of the “Origin of the Musical Bach Family”, written by Johann Sebastian Bach in 1735, posterity didn't take it quite so seriously either..
The updated graphic design and the “official” Bach logo of the family of musicians..
Leipzig and the Bach family agree: five cones, that is, prongs, not seven. Exciting: This change has now become established in Germany. No biographer, Bach author, or anyone else between Flensburg and Rosenheim would still use Bach's symbol with the seven points in the crown today. Here ... in Germany. Unless a Bach association, a Bach choir, or Bach orchestra was founded prior to 2009 and the old Bach seal is retained for historical reasons. I think that's okay..
If you enter “Google USA” (... in all countries except the USA) in the Google search bar, then click on “Google USA” and finally search for “Bach monogram,” “Bach logo,” or “Bach insignia,” you will of course get over 2,000,000 results beyond the German borders. And all of these are pretty uninteresting for us here and now. Only one more click, namely on the “Images” button ... brings up 50 percent “old” Bach insignia even so long after 2009: the Bach logo with a crown and ... seven prongs..
Weitere FAQ (,... weil keine EN-Pendant).
In, or rather in front of, the Bach House in Eisenach, “the subject is sidestepped” very elegantly. More information can be found in the answer to FAQ 106, but it should also be noted here that a visit to the Bach House in Eisenach is well worth it..
Are you interested in what the 14 dots in Bach's symbol above mean? Because they do have a meaning. By now, you know how to find out. Not on this, my page, but on another one. With just one click, you can read about it here. In detail. Better yet: in great detail..
Here is a special one among the eight Bach seals. And you can still see it today. In the Bach House in Eisenach. It is the Bach Cup, on which Bach's symbol is depicted. Bach received the cup as a gift in the 1730s, bequeathed it, and today it is preserved. What makes it special? The three letters engraved on the cup are not JSB, but SJB, standing for Sebastian Johann Bach. Cool? Yes, really ... cool. This means that the Bach House has two unusual Bach logos. © ... and many thanks to Dr. Jörg Hansen, Director of the Bach House, for permission to publish the photo above..
In the Cathedral of Meissen, a Bach treasure stood for years, perhaps decades. In the truest sense of the word. In a valuable, rather large wooden box, donations had been requested for this dreamlike house of God. Until a Bach fan and Bach expert discovered that the artwork inside the lid “looked very much alike Johann Sebastian.” © Pixabay..
That's right, every visitor to a Bach website would have recognized it immediately: Bach's symbol, his monogram, his logo, his seal, his coat of arms. And how complete and how clear and how easy to read. Not like the wax seal more than 250 years ago. © Special thanks go to Dr. Markus Zepf (Bach Archive, March 2019)..
Only this logo, monogram, or Bach's symbol has never been used historically. It is simply a modern play on the “old” coat of arms. And the six letters again, to the right and left of it. Once again, I would like to mention the term most commonly used today for Bach's symbol, namely Bach seal. Why? Well, if you google this term on English websites and then select images, the “old Bach logo” is not only in first and second place, but the old monogram is also much more frequently represented in terms of numbers. I estimate 70 percent. Today. Here ... and there, where I am at home ... googled..
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